Embedded EUPundit Google Groups forum Removed because of Problems for Internet Explorer Users

We have removed the embedded EUPundit Google Groups forum because it results in an error message for users browsing with Internet Explorer.

We can not force people to shift to what we regard to be the superior Firefox or Google Chrome browsers, where no problems are encountered.

Anyone wishing to join the forum can still join it at Google Groups.
The forum need not be embedded. It was just an experiment.

Browser Performance upon Embedding Google Groups LawPundit Forum in Blogger: Gecko Wins (Firefox and Google Chrome), Opera Follows with a Bug, and Internet Explorer (Trident) Last with an Error Message: plus We Used Lunascape As the Toggle-Capable Test Engine

Update on "the Browser Wars" as we just embedded the new Google Groups EUPundit, EULegal and LawPundit into the corresponding EUPundit, EULegal and LawPundit Blogger blogs.

What happened browser-wise?
Some strange things.

Take it for what it is worth - but this embedding of Google Groups in Blogger has up to now worked without a hitch in Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome.

Internet Explorer produces a garbled message about not being able to embed frames and does not show the forum at all. Not usable.

Opera has one line of overlapping text at LawPundit -- a serious-enough error to deter usage.

I checked it all out again by using Lunascape 6 to access the Lawpundit blog.

At Lunascape you, where you can toggle between the Gecko, Trident and Webkit enignes for the major browsers:

• Gecko reproduces the Google Groups LawPundit forum in the LawPundit Blogger blog without fail 
• Webkit overlaps one line of text
• Trident the first time around gave a runtime error and an otherwise blank page and at the second attempt produced most of the page, but  without the forum and with the message: "ERROR: Possible problem with your *.gwt.xml module file. The compile time user.agent value (ie9) does not match the runtime user.agent value (ie8). Expect more errors."

 I googled the "gwt.xml" problem and found this page (see that link).

In any case, those results match my own browser usage of Firefox as the browser of choice (because of all the options), Chrome as a good backup (perhaps faster, but limited, option-wise), Opera good with some great features but sometimes buggy and eccentric, and Internet Explorer is simply too flawed and not worth the money.

EU Cookie Law, Patent Lobbying and Business Compliance: An Evidence-Based Approach is Needed

We already warned everyone about the coming problem of the EU Cookie Law one year ago (at EUPUndit here) and then recently (at EUPundit here) as well.

Unfortunately for them, too few people read LawPundit or EUPundit, preferring blogs and websites that concentrate on quirky off-beat legal questions of little practical value or that focus on politically sensational ephemeral events.

So now, there you have it. The problem is on everyone's doorstep. What to do? We ourselves have adopted the free SilkTide solution (EUPundit here).

We might point out in the context of solving problems raised by the EU Cookie Law that an "evidence-based" approach should be preferred. "Evidence-based" is the new watchword in law, politics, science and humanities -- at least so we allege, because we have been at the forefront of this development in our postings for years -- indeed, we have even started the first Pinterest board to be titled "Evidence-Based".

Specifically, on point, at Out-Law.com at Cookie law disaster should force companies to emulate patent world lobbying, says expert we find written:

"Businesses must engage the media and arms of government more effectively. Like the patent lobbyists they must make clear evidence-based connections between the value of innovative technologies dependent on the use of personal information and the benefits these technologies bring to society."

We would pin that article to our Pinterest board but Out-Law.com, for all of its pioneer posting efforts, is still behind the times and has no Pinterest-capable image that represents its website.

By the way, we do not agree at all -- in many cases -- that patent lobbyists have established evidence-based connections for the overly broad patent protection that the law mistakenly grants today, but there is no doubt that the evidence-based approach must find increasing application at all levels of policymaking and rulemaking in a world dominated by hype that often has little or no actual evidence-based support.